From time to time, and thankfully very rarely, PM Publications is advised of people who do not complete transactions with collectors/traders. We are happy to write to the former, on behalf of the "wronged" party, to try to achieve settlement of a genuine dispute, or to persuade the "guilty" party to make restitution.
When we fail to achieve achieve any response from the subject of the complaint, the circumstances
of the case are included in the "Watchdog" feature of Programme Monthly & Football Collectable, and on this Black List section
of this Web site.
There follows a list, in alphabetic order, of all those whose complaints to “Watchdog” remain unresolved. Page down,
below the list, for details of these complaints.
BAILEY, PHILIP, 16 Bradshaw Avenue, Saltney Ferry, Chester, CH4 0 BE
BAIRSTOW, PAUL,
15 Maryside, Langley, Slough,SL3 7ES
BARKER, JULIAN, 30 Simpson Place,Mexborough, S64 9NR
BIOLETTI, JENNA, 43 Cathnor Road, Shepherds
Bush, London W12 9JB
BONNICI, ANTHONY, 74 Cardinal Xiberras Street, Qormu, Qrm 04, Malta
BROAD, ALAN, 54 Deepdale Road,Bolton, BL2 5LR
CARMICHAEL,
SONNY, 7 Stapeley Court,Crewe, CW1 3EZ
CASSIDY, CHRISTIAN, Swn Yr Afon, Mold Road, Bodfari, Denbighshire,LL16 4DP
CAWDRON, MR L, 73
Haugh Green, Rawmarsh, Rotherham,S62 7JN
CHOWN, JASON, 42 Burlington Road,Portsmouth, PO2 0DP
EVANS, P.J., 88 The Butts, Frome,BA11
4AF
FISHER, G, 54 Highate Drive, Shipley View, Ilkeston, DE7 9HU
GATE, STAN, formerly of Walker Fosse Programmes, 12 Mead Walk, Walkerdene,
Newcastle upon Tyne, NE6 4HB, last known address 5 Lily Avenue, Bedlington, NE22 5BB
GREEN, PETER, 1003 Leek Road, Hanley, Stoke on
Trent
HACKWOOD, Trevor, 66 Uplands Avenue, Rowley Regis, Warley, B65 9PX
HILL, Mr F, 35 Clapham High Street,London SW4
JOHNSTON, IAIN,
30 Kyleakin Road,Arden, Glasgow,G46 8AF
KAUS, BENT, Praestelaengen 19, DK-2000 CopenhagenNV, Denmark
KELLY, TIMOTHY, 4 Belvedere Grove,
Bridlington,YO15 3LY or 129 Palmerston Street, Beswick, Manchester M12
KENDALL, CHRIS, 4 Well Yard, Town Street, Holbrook, Belper,
Derbyshire DE56 0TB
KITCHEN, RONNIE, 12 Flaxton Gardens, Leeds, LS11 6DG
LEE, MARK, 23100 Avenue San Luis, #351, Woodlands Hills, CA91364,USA
LOFLEY,
ALISTAIR, 37 North Street, Littleover, Derby, DE23 6BJ
MILNE, SHAUN, 66 Alan Place, Southcote, Reading, RG30 3BW
MITCHELL, D.K., 104
Queens Road, Fulwood, Preston, PR2 3BQ
NOY, ANDY, 3 Bownlow Road,Lake, Isle of Wight, PO36 8PA
NUTT, Teresa and Matthew, 33 Terregles
Road, Summerhill, Dumfries DG2 9HE
RASMUSSEN, BERNADETTE, 0/3, 29 Trafalgar Street, Greenock, PA15 4LZ
READ, A.L., 18 Acer Grove, Preston,PE2
6EZ, also trading as
READ, LES, www.soccercollectablesuk.co.uk
SPENCER, MARTIN, 51 Selstead Road,WoodhousePark, Wythenshaw, Manchester,
M22 1TM
STAJIC, SRDAN, Post Restant, 26000 Pancevo,Serbia
SUTTON, ANDY, 7 The Knolls, Barrowby, Grantham,NG32 1AY
TASKER, PHIL, 369 Whitehall
Road West, Cleckheaton, BD19 4EE
TOMLINSON, DAVID, 30 Burnfoot Terrace, Whitley Bay, NE26 2ED
TRUEMAN, STUART, 117 Pleckgate Road, Pleckgate,
Blackburn, BB1 8QA
WATSON, David, email address dwatto19@yahoo.co.uk
WEBB, Paul, 4 Greenstead Road, Loughtopn, IG10 3DW
WOOD, M.G., 15
Dunes Avenue, Camber, East Sussex, TN31 7RP
WOOLSTON, DAVID, 56 Harley Road, Great Yarmouth, NR30 4JT
There were details in PM349 of
three collectors who had failed to complete purchases of programmes. TERESA NUTT has communicated only by email, her email address
is killiefan1@msn.com. Typically, no postal address was appended to her emails, but we had previously sold an item to MATTHEW NUTT,
33 Terregles Road, Summerhill, Dumfries, Dumfries and Galloway DG2 9HE whose ebny id is matthew0100, with a contact email address
of teresa-nutt@supanet.com
DAVID WATSON would appear to be a Millwall collector, whose email address is dwatto19@yahoo.co.uk.
Mr G.
Fisher of
The September 2006 issue
of PM (306) contains details of difficulties collectors are experiencing with allsorts-00 (Timothy Kelly) who “has never had any of
the items that he has sold. Therefore all the e-mails that everyone has been receiving from him saying that the goods have been sent,
and do you want him to trace the missing item via the post office, etc, etc is all lies. The address in Bridlington (4 Belvedere Grove,
Bridlington, East Riding of Yorkshire Y015 3LY) is not his address. However his sister Ann, (and probably his parents) live at this
address. We now believe that Kelly himself lives at 129 Palmerston Street, Beswick, Manchester M12”
Fair organiser Paul Bailey writes
: “On 20th November 2005, Junction Football Fairs held the East Midlands Football Memorabilia and Programme Fair at Notts County FC,
where a collector was seen putting some items in a carrier bag and shortly afterwards walking out of the building without paying for
them. The collector was followed outside by the security man and the stallholder whose items they were, and stopped.
“The items were
some autographs and programmes. The police were called and the collector admitted to them that he had not paid for the items. The
collector has received a caution (number cs/144081/05). The collector is Peter Green of
DAVID WOOLSTON, 56 Harley Road, Great Yarmouth,
NR30 4JT has failed to pay up on successful offers, despite several reminders, in at least two instances, to our knowledge.
The following
collector has failed to respond to Offers Success Notes, despite several reminders from the seller. He has also failed to reply to
correspondence from PM. IAIN JOHNSTON,
We wrote to Jason Chown,
Six letters of complaint were forwarded to CHRIS KENDALL, 4 WELL YARD,
Some
of these complaints have now been resolved, but we continue to receive complaints about the non-delivery of programmes from Chris,
additional to the twelve outstanding orders advised to him last year by this magazine. Our message to new complainants is that we
can do nothing to help them - Mr Kendall has been named in this column every month since May 2000. We are advising all new complainants
that they should write, with details, to Philip May, County Public Protection Officer, Derbyshire County Council, Trading Standards
Division, Chatsworth Hall, Chesterfield Road, Matlock, Derbyshire, DE4 3FW. Telephone (01629) 580000, Fax (01629) 585917
In the April
2000 edition of PM (229), we mentioned difficulties experienced by collectors in dealing with MARTIN SPENCER, 51 SELSTEAD ROAD, WOODHOUSE
PARK, WYTHENSHAW, MANCHESTER M22 1TM. Since then, Mr Spencer has used another name and a different address in the Greater Manchester
area, and was involved in the sale of the Manchester United (v Estudiantes and Copenhagen Select) items highlighted in the November
issue of PM (236). One correspondent has advised that "he is now trading on Ebay as martin.spencer and so far has a -2 feedback rating.
His email address is martin.spencer@totalise.co.uk. He is also on Ebay as georgebestmufc, email address fermaingroup@totalise.co.uk,
and manudealer with a different email address."
PAUL TASKER,
On
ANTHONY
BONNICI,
SHAUN MILNE, 66 Alan Place, Southcote, Reading
RG30 3BW, agreed a price for the purchase of a quantity of programmes ; paid half of it, but the other half remainds unpaid after
nearly a year, several attempt at contact by the seller,and two letters from PM.
BENT KAUS, Praestelaengen 19, DK-2000 Copenhagen NV,
Denmark, received a programme for which he agreed to pay, and despite letters from the seller, and one from PM, neither response nor
payments has been forthcoming.
JULIAN BARKER,
Mr F. HILL of
MR P.J. EVANS of 88 The Butts, Frome, BA11 4AF,
received compensation from Royal Mail for a missing package, but did not pass it on to the person with whom he transaction who suffered
the loss. The internet is not the only place that people on PM’s “Black List” can slip back into circulation in the hobby. It can
happen in this very magazine too ! In one month’s “Market Place”, we accepted an advertisement for Go West Programmes of 40 Keys Avenue,
Horfield,
Little progress has been made with regard to the resolution
of debts owed by RONNIE KITCHEN, formerly of 12 Flaxton Gardens, Leeds, LS11 6DG. Despite a verbal promise, he has not responded to
a letter sent to him some weeks ago, and if such non-communication continues over the next few weeks, the situation will have to be
referred outwith the hobby
PAUL BAIRSTOW of 15 Maryside, Langley,
TREVOR HACKWOOD, 66 Uplands Avenue, Rowley Regis, Warley, West Midlands, B65 9PX failed to respond to letters
regarding incomplete transactions. Mr Hackwood at one time was an official of Sandwell F.C.
A couple of dealers have experienced difficulty
in obtaining cleared payments from MARK LEE, 23100 Avenue San Luis, #351,
A collector entrusted some photographs to Les Read of Soccer Collectables
(www.soccercollectablesuk.co.uk : email soccercollectables@hotmail.com, Tel : 0781-2797283) in order that he would obtain signatures
from current Everton players. The owner has been unable to contact Mr Read by any of the above means.
An auction house awaits payment
of the balance of Ł266.97 from Mr A.L. Reid, Soccer Collectables, 18 Acer Grove,
A number of collectors are owed money or programmes from
Bernadette Rasmussen who can apparently be contacted on 01475 710208 or write to 0/3 29 Trafalgar Street, Greenock, PA15 4LZ
Stuart
Trueman, of 117 Pleckgate Road, Pleckgate, Blackburn, Lancs. BB1 8QA, bounced a cheque on PM - for Ł2.50! His cheque bore the name
S.P. Trueman. He has not responded to a follow up letter.
Alistair Lofley of
Mr L Cawdron, 73 Haugh Green, Rawmarsh,
M.G. Wood,
David Tomlinson, 30 Burnfoot Terrace, Whitley
Bay, NE26 2ED defaulted on a successful offer with a dealer, and has not responded to reminders.
Mr D.K. Mitchell,
In issue 259 of PM (October 2002), WALKER FOSSE PROGRAMMES, 12 Mead Walk, Walkerdene,
Newcastle Upon Tyne, NE6 4HB, placed a quarter page display advertisement advertising their latest catalogue, and a 2002/3 Newcastle
United subscription service. In March 2003,
“After four months I was told
it wasn't forwarded on as the guy at Aston Villa was in hospital long term and that a new parcel would be forwarded and I should receive
it in two days. After 6 months still nothing despite numerous telephone calls. I was then told a full Ł60 refund would be sent. Again
nothing. I have send three more letters asking for a refund but no response. I cannot even ‘phone the number now [0191-276-3514] as
it is now ‘not recognised and unobtainable'. Walker Fosse also asked people to enrol in their club for an annual fee. I know several
people who have done this and never heard back.”
Another PM reader send Stan Gate, described as the proprietor of Walker Fosse Programmes,
programmes for which a Ł81 payment had been agreed. “The excuses given included : ‘I've send payment ages ago but my e-mail isn't
working any more so I wasn't able to see your e-mails saying that it hadn't arrived’, to ‘I've sent the payment some time ago but
I know what's happened now, it's been sent to the wrong address.’ and ‘I can't believe it, it's been sent to the wrong address again,
I only found out the person I had sent it to returned it to me,’ and ‘I sent it last week and the cheque was cashed, do you mean you
haven't received it ? I'll check it out with the bank in the morning.’ There were many more excuses, including ‘I really do not know
where there is a Nat West in
A third PM reader has sent money for Newcastle United pre-season friendlies this season,
and has received none. It is believed that Stan Gate has a programme stall/stance outside St James Park on matchdays - would anyone
with current contact details for him please get in touch with PM.
Had we known of Stan Gate's involvement with Walker Fosse Programmes,
the advert would not have been accepted. He has appeared in ‘Watchdog’ before, ten years ago, when he was involved in a publication
entitled ‘Football Programme Collectors News’, which accepted subscriptions from collectors, but was apparently never published. Needless
to say, no refunds were forthcoming.
It is believed that he is an office-bearer of Walker Fosse Football Club, and anyone who has contact
with that organisation, or its officers, are asked to have them get in touch with PM, It is understood that the address Walker Fosse
Programmes used, 12 MEAD WALK, WALKERDENE, NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE, NE6 4HB, is that of Len Syrett, who is believed to be Stan Gate's
brother in law.
The last known address for Stan Gate was
We were asked to contact SONNY
CARMICHAEL, 7 STAPELEY COURT, CREWE, CW1 3EZ, by someone who had purchased a programme from him, and had asked for a refund as the
item was not as he understood it to be at the time of purchased. Mr/Ms Carmichael has not responded to either of the two letters sent
to him by PM, and the matter remains unresolved.
PAUL WEBB,
It happens to us all - within the space of ten
days, we at PM suffered three bounced cheques, taking our total for the year to .... three. The two subscribers quickly made good
their mistakes, but one advertiser did not. On page A43 of Market Place in December, ANDY NOY of
Several months ago, we advised that we would
no longer be accepting advertisements from Srdan Stajic, whose postal address is Post Restant, 26000
We did stop short of including him in "Watchdog", as there was no
conclusive evidence of wrong-doing, just a succession of "shades of grey" disputes and the absence of any willingness, on his behalf,
to resolve them. As recently as 4th April, Mr Stajic was "boasting" of his non-appearance in Watchdog in an email to a British dealer
: "It's easy to talk bull**** and have no proof. I'm NOT blacklisted in PM, I'm banned from it because the editor took the side of
an English **** in a dispute and that's that. He (the editor) had the announcement in PM but had NEVER said that I cheated anybody.
So, lying mother****** **********, who did I cheat in
Three days later, PM received a letter from
a collector who had sent Mr Stajic 3,000 Euros for one programme, and 1,640 Euros for various other programmes. The first sum was
sent by Special Delivery on 6th December last year, and the second by
After many emails, and some fairly exotic excuses (computer problems, new tax system in
Around the same time, PM received an email from another collector,
who advised that he, and at least another five collectors in the
“I paid €963 for some programmes for games played in Serbia and others
have spent several thousands of pounds on rare British aways in the former Yugoslavia and not received a thing."
The next email to
PM was more hopeful : " In fairness there is still some hope. One of the expectant collectors reports that "Srdan is an odd character,
and it’s possible the programmes are on their way, he has done this to me before"
A few days later and hope springs eternal : "Srdan
has now made contact with all five people involved (I suspect there may be more) and promised to send the programmes straight away.
I am a lot more hopeful now but will keep you informed."
But hold … a day or so later, "I've heard today that two of our number have
received special delivery packages with just newspaper inside - no programmes. We had no contact for a number of weeks then an e-mail
saying he was away and all the stuff would be sent promptly. Mine has not yet arrived. I've made arrangements with my local police
station that they will allow me to open a package there in front of a policeman.
"I have just rung Srdan and he is insisting that there
is a conspiracy against him led by yourself [PM]. Needless to say I know this is not the case. If you know of any other potential
victims (there are others - he didn't mention names but said there were a few other people) can you please advise if they haven't
yet opened a package to bring it to their local police station and have it witnessed. Obviously my programmes may still be inside
the package but I don't hold out much hope at this stage."
And now to The Sting. Another e-mail. "Just to confirm I received a sealed
package yesterday from Srdan. I brought it unopened to the Police Station and a PC opened it and confirmed it was just recent Serbian
newspapers. He kept it as evidence, took a full statement and the matter is now in the hands of the police and a full report will
be forwarded to the police in
“I subsequently rang Srdan last night and
he was toughing it out saying he had proof he sent the stuff, it was my word against his, one particular collector and John Litster
have a conspiracy campign against him, but he was clearly taken aback when I said I didn't open the package but that it was opened
and retained by an policeman. He recovered well though and said he has the best lawyer in
His full contact details : Name: Srdan Stajic ; Address: Cara Dusana 72,
Any PM readers who have been caught in this manner by Srdan Stajic should contact PM,
and I will forward their contact details to the corresponding collector who has placed the matter in the hands of his local police
force.
From
A fortnight later, it was obvious that no such action had been taken, and
PM wrote again, on 5th May. On this occasion, there was no response.
In the meantime, one of those affected has contacted her local
police force, and PM has spoken with a Detective Constable. His advice is that all those affected should forward details of their
debt (approx. date of correspondence, details of items forwarded to Ms Bioletti, and value of the stopped cheque) to :
Hammersmith
& Fulham Crime Management Unit, Fulham Police Station, London SW6.
Stuart Trueman, of
We
wrote to Philip Bailey,
REPRODUCTION WARNING
(from the
November 2000 edition of Programme Monthly & Football Collectable, issue 236)
1966 WORLD CUP FINAL (
It is
thought that there are three versions on the market today. The original, printed in July 1966, has a front cover background of “
The 1970 reprint has a distinct lilac tinge
to the front cover background, and the Cadets stripe is coloured tangerine. On page 2, the two-tone (Player's) No.6 logo boxes on
the cigarette advert are virtually mono-tone, both halves being almost indistinguishable, whereas on the original they are clearly
light and dark grey.
The 1999 Reproduction is marked as such, overprinted “Reprinted 1999” on the lower right hand corner of the back
page, printed black on the white margin. Unfortunately, this can be rubbed of, although tell-tale signs sometimes remain. This is
a far better reproduction than the 1970 version, and the only distinguishing feature is that the dark blue on the front cover union
jack is more navy than the original, ie blacker.
The other tell-tale sign is the age and colouration of the paper. No matter how well
kept the 1966 original has been, the paper is now showing signs of slight yellowing, with gradation in colour in particular around
the edges of some of the internal pages.
A prominent dealer bought a number of items from an individual in
The first is a single teamsheet for the Copenhagen XI v Manchester United friendly match on
Both
items have been folded and creased several times, with an element of staining on the yellow/light brown paper. The ticket has a red
“President” stamp on it. In bad light, or on hasty inspection, they may well be passed off as genuine.
It is only on closer inspection,
and following the sowing of seeds of doubt by other observers, that their true nature becomes apparent.
More experienced collectors
than this writer, who have had more than a passing acquaintance with antique programmes, will be better qualified to describe the
look-and-feel of 30-plus year old documents. Moreover, amongst our readership are experts in paper restoration.
Notwithstanding greater
skills, we will press on with some of the points to look out for. The 43 year old programme, despite its folds, creases and stains,
is on paper that has retained its thickness and its sharp edges. One would expect dampness from the atmosphere to have softened the
former effect, and repeated handling to take away the latter. There is no watermark on the paper, which one would normally expect
on 43 tear old paper of this thickness.
Crucially, the text is badly broken across the numerous folds and creases. This is symptomatic
of the text being put on the paper by a modern laser printer ; ink does not break up to the same extent. Similarly, there is no indentation
of text. Offset litho was still in its infancy in 1957 - although not unknown - but conversely you cannot fake the genuine look and
feel of letterpress printing.
The ticket is on thinner paper, but again has no water-mark, has sharp edges and the print is badly broken
along the creases. Several items of text - “Periodisimo Ingles” against the word “Diario” and seat, row, block etc. numbers would
surely have been applied to the original document by typewriter, which would have had a distinctive look, and the tell-tale indentation
apparent on the reverse side of the ticket. None of these aspects were present.